Davis Islands Neighborhood Planning Task ForceWorking Meeting Minutes Present: Lee Medart, Renae Tvedt, Jeffrey Siewert, Andy Hayes, Renee Meehan, Phyllis Pacyna-Fleming, Gary Brown , Shirley Mora, and Planning Commission representative: Rose Petrucha. Guest Architect: Antonio Amadeo Absent: Denise Cavanaugh, Shelia Spicola,(excused) Charner Reese,Lisa DeVitto, Lorraine Smith, Pam Tayon (unexcused) (Note: an excused absence is one that the Chair has been notified before the meeting that the member cannot make it.) Meeting was called to order at 6:30 pm. Quorum noted. Minutes to be approved: February 15, 2005 – No objections - Approved ReportsThe Chair introduced Antonio Amadeo as a volunteer architect to help create sketches for the Open-house. Antonio use to be a planner for TGH and is a DI resident. The Chair gave out the brochures to the Downtown Vision Stakeholders Meeting Thursday, March 3 rd. The Chair handed around the entry for the Task Force in the Design Awards competition that they were entering – deadline Thursday March 3 rd. The Chair showed a picture of a downtown in Daytona Beach that Gary had commented was exactly the type of picture he was looking for. An overhead of the Islands with markings in different colors to suggest different areas of classifications of residences: Single-family detached; Attached and Multifamily. To possible show the differences when some residents changed to upper levels and created space for garages, parking, etc. The Chair passed out some schematics from the board items she had put to paper. Unfinished BusinessNon-residential: Continued discussion of inventory of sketches for the May 5 th meeting. Gary brought Antonio up to date about what we were planning for sketches versus aerials for the May 5 th meeting. The base map will start with aerials and have the architects graphically border the actual aerial just come next to the aerial with whatever sketches that we do. Might have circles and arrows that go out to the sketches showing the “close-up” of whatever we’re trying to demonstrate. Chesapeake to Barbados as the two-block area as our village. The second option: If the Islanders want the Village to grow, the first way it might grow is in a linear fashion up E Davis Blvd. and Davis up to the Bridge. The sketches would be the same just in a different place of whatever we are proposing in architecture, landscaping, streetscape, etc. The biggest difference is that the right-of-way gets larger; which would mean how set-backs would be applied differently; traffic calming would be applied differently; etc. This would be the second footprint. Mixed-use. Start to introduce homes – the park issues start to butt up against what could be the new Village footprint, where you don’t have any parking areas at all. The Chair asked if they knew that in 1925 that there was a parking garage at 6 Columbia – some knew and some didn’t – in fact, the existing parking garage behind what is called 1 Davis is the original parking garage and in fact cannot be used by visitors but needs to have valets because of it’s narrow driving alleys. The third option assumes instead of growing north, it grows east and or west. The Eastern option would incorporate more of the blocks between Barbados and Biscayne incorporating what is there into the village. Going west was considered as an option because we already have a very strong intensive use here with the DI Baptist Church. And a long time ago there use to be the Coliseum. So in the original plan there was a center that existed here that burnt down. Gary suggested that we demonstrate these not just in sketches but also in photographs of places similar to what we are proposing. So if photographs could be overlaid with ideas that accentuate the process that would be good too. From a land planning or horizontal stand point; and Andy’s sketches have already started the ball rolling. Andy has introduced a lot of these concepts; One of the sketches demonstrates a stronger meeting place for the Village Center. The question then is how can we introduce a land use plan for this section – the Islands Chateau and 1 Barbados condos are most likely not going to go anyplace and that’s ok. How do you start to show graphically some kind of a boulevard which brings the water views and the linear park into the Village and create outdoor open spaces that are much more pedestrian-friendly, less auto intensive; perhaps starts dealing with parking issues, etc. Also introduces a mixed-use concept; residential courtyards, retail courtyards and designing something that is going to feel small in scale. Also within the PLAN target areas that might be considered for additional parking. Parking is one of the issues that is important. The solution to the parking problem may not be a parking structure, it may be just analyzes of our current use of on-street parking. Such as taking away parallel parking and use more diagonal parking – graphically we’d just have a yellow dot and show 4 or 5 different areas showing as potential parking, with the intent of getting feedback. Residential – Andy agreed that this idea of putting the growth of the Village towards the water brings together a lot of layers, and if we could get a Water Taxi coming over from the Downtown, it then would take care of some of the traffic issues; parking, traffic calming, etc. – if we do things like this, it forces change in other areas to enforce that mix of multifamily to single-family proportions that has been documented in the VISION. This one area effects that mixed and this has to keep the proportion mix in a cohesive way. There are really a hundred case-studies that should be done on Davis Islands. Andy stated that he agreed with the Chair’s suggestion that we color a base map with “sections” of where the Residential could be – limit it to something like single-family detached. The sketches indicate what we’ve been looking at but the piece we’re missing out of this is there needs to be some kind of educational component. People are not use to the terms. Lay people in this task force have been more comfortable with the professional terms because of the meetings. A glossary needs to be there able to show the people in open-house meeting what we know of the professional terms. Andy suggested under the “do nothing” option that we should show the “threats” in that option and ask are you willing to live with: The amount of cars on the streets; the parking problem in the two blocks of the village center; the speeding problems on E and W Davis - be in people’s face; force them to realize if “do nothing” is their option these are the threats/consequences and most people don’t think of that. If the Village Center changes, it’s going to be because of market forces – so these are just ideas of IF it changes, how do those changes enrich life and is sustainable over time and supports the long-term VISION of the Islands. Rose indicated as an answer to Andy’s question about “how much” we should put in front of the participants that we didn’t need a thousand sketches but rather enough to get the participants engaged so we could talk about what they liked and didn’t like. We’re trying to develop some options – we’re not coming up with just one solution – we’re just trying to give them some ideas about what the possibilities are. Engage them to talk further and through the conversation educate them. Rose agreed with Andy’s suggestion of putting “if something happened” and bringing out the consequences because a lot of people don’t even think about it. Bring the different subcommittees findings together as a collage. Antonio stated that there was something in D.P. Davis’ plan was that there would be no traffic lights on Davis Islands. The Chair suggested that she could ask Mr. Nelson who has original books that were given out by D. P. Davis on layouts, sketches, etc if there was anything in them about traffic lights. Andy indicated that we need to show in smaller maps what would happen when we changed the position of single families and multifamily that the density remains the same. Antonio suggested that people like to see color and “wispy” pictures as in sketches rather than hard lines of computer oriented sketches. Focus on key sketches for conversation – two sketches with an aerial. Parks and Recreation: Charner was not present at the meeting. Traffic: Jeffrey presented his map which he had identified his three areas that were slated as traffic calming points – the gateway; heritage and the Village. Non-residential intertwines with traffic calming. Jeffrey pointed out that the other areas he had marked on his map were areas of abuse because they are so wide they demand that drivers go fast. Eventually we want to have the ability to get to the Village non-motorized. Jeffrey indicated that there are possible routes – he calls them “pedestrian-sleeves” - from the west of Davis Islands. He wants to portray “neck-downs”, “cross-walks”; in-pavement flashers; etc. – so the pedestrian has “right-of-way”. Gary brought up that the entrance to the Islands is designed for the Hospital. His thinking is that the whole speeding issue starts at the bridge area – if we stopped that and create a on-Islands streetscape to stop that thinking of speed, then the other speed-calming mechanisms along Davis and E Davis has a bigger effect. Antonio suggested that our entrance had no mechanism for stopping the traffic or greatly slowing down so something needs to be proposed at the bridge to do that. Gary agreed that the “feeling” of the Islands starts at the mainland so the travel on the bridge is fast and merging traffic from Bayshore causes concerns. So Gary suggested that it’s not “just” where the travel comes onto or off-of the Islands but rather the whole bridge to the mainland. Jeffrey suggested that if the traffic to and from the hospital could be isolated on one of the bridges…Questions were asked:
New BusinessThere was no new business. Schedule of Next Meetings: Tues Mar 15 th, Tues Mar 29 th, (Note: all architect volunteers are asked to be at the 3 March meetings to organize who will do what sketches) - Tues Apr 12 th and Tues Apr 26 th - all at Tennis Courts – 6:30 pm to 9:00 pm Meeting was adjourned at 8:30pm. |
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